I had a conversation with God last night. Really, I did! I was just re-reading through portions of Neale Donald Walsch‘s wildly popular Conversations with God series, and I couldn’t help but wonder how any self-respecting God, if one exists, would allow such lunacy to continue. And, wouldn’t you know it, God responded!
An uncommon dialogue
DB: Son of a bitch, this stuff is giving me a migraine…
God: Hello!!! This is… Gaaawwwwwwwwwwd.
DB: Holy crap, you do exist! Silly me, I thought you were a logical impossibility!
God: Oh, I am an impossibility. Of awesomeness!
DB: But how do I know it’s really you?
God: Well, I can’t really prove anything to you at this point. Maybe it’s really me, or maybe it’s a drug-induced hallucination. And the headcheese hoagie you ate for dinner can’t be helping, either.
DB: You know–
God: I’m–
DB: Oh, sorry, go ahead.
God: No, no, you spoke first.
DB: I’ve actually had a few burning questions to ask you, now that you’re here. Do you mind?
God: Burning questions are better answered by Satan. Get it?!
DB: Wow… that is just awful.
God: I’m just joshin’ you. Go ahead and shoot away.
DB: You know who Neale Donald Walsch is, right? He has built a multi-million dollar empire from his “Conversations with God” books.
God: Yes, I’ve heard… such things.
DB: Well, was it really you speaking to him? Because, forgive me, but it sounds an awful lot like Walsch’s conversations are between himself and his gigantic ego, instead of a deity like yourself.
God: You’re absolutely right. I’ve never spoken to him in any way, not in print, writing, thoughts, or conversation. He is a dangerous cult leader, and I’m amazed that more and more people keep on feeding his ego trip. You can quote me on that.
DB: Oh, good, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks so. It will be interesting to see what my readers think of your opinion on this, o Lord. So, let me ask you this. How can I make a million dollars from this conversation that we’re having right now?
God: It’s simple! People are idiots. I created them that way, because I felt like it. All you have to do is sprinkle this conversation with some positive messages, appeal to their fantasies and desires, and subtly inject your own agenda at your leisure! Tell people that, by just reading this conversation, their lives will improve and become filled with happiness. Also, use words like “Eastern” and “alternative.” Then all you do is sell, sell, sell!!! Write books, have seminars, workshops, retreats, cruises, and charge as much as you want! They’ll pay, and beg for more! Make sure to nickel-and-dime at every turn, so they get used to paying whenever they hear your name. And of course, make sure to copyright everything you do, and insist that you’re the only one with the true message.
DB: Awesome! But what if people’s lives don’t improve from reading this conversation?
God: Tell them it’s their own damn fault. Use an excuse like “you create your own reality” or “you are your own god.” That will shut them up real quick, and give them some much-needed guilt, so they’ll buy even more stuff from you! If they still insist that their lives aren’t changing, wave your hands in the air and tell them that they haven’t “opened their mind” enough, and offer to clear their mind for an additional charge.
DB: Wow, it sounds so simple when you put it like that!
God: I know, right?! Oh, and one more thing. When selling this stuff, you really have to stand out, or no one will notice you. You have to be really flamboyant. I mean extremely flamboyant. Flail your arms around when speaking, and dance around on the stage. Change the emotion in your voice randomly from one sentence to another, just to throw them off.
DB: But what if people accuse me of being a fraud?
God: So what? Just tell them they can believe whatever they want! Maybe you spoke to God, maybe you didn’t! Here’s a good one to throw at them: “we’re all god!” I’m God, you’re God, this rock is God! Did you talk to a rock today? Boom, you talked with God, and I just blew your mind! Is that profound enough for you? How about them apples, Debbie Downer?
DB: Okay, let me give it a try real quick, and tell me if I’ve got it.
God: Alright, let’s see what you’ve got.
DB: [Clears throat] Umm…
Eastern religion… is… awesome. You people are… fantastic. Leading a healthy lifestyle is… great. Come to my workshops and, for $500, I will repeat these platitudes to you!
God: No, no, no, you have to do a lot better than that! First of all, you can’t just ask for money. What are you, a wimp? You have to demand money. You have to make them assume that they need to give you money to get anywhere!
DB: [loosens up] OK, let me try again…
We’re all connected! If you try hard, you can accomplish things in life! Don’t harm animals! America! Sex is good for you! Think about money and it will come to you! You must give me $1200, so that I can show you how to make $500!
God: Ehh… good, not great. Here, take an example from the master. Now watch what I do, and listen closely: I’m just going to speak naturally, and say whatever comes to mind… [Clears throat]
According to the scientifically proven Law of Attraction, which we all know is true, quantum reality can be manipulated by something as simple as your thoughts! Since your consciousness exists both in the physical and spiritual realm, according to scientists, you can consciously use quantum effects like entanglement and superposition, to literally change the world around you. Once you master this simple skill, which we’re all born with, you can attract prosperity, health, love, power, and anything else you want in your life.
At my upcoming workshop, for an introductory fee of $10000, I’ll teach you to channel your life-force energy through scientifically verified quantum field points on your body, allowing you to heal yourself and others, enjoy a better love life, create wealth, and finally be the master of your quantum world. Also, for an additional $200 per 10 minutes, I will hold an attunement session with you, where I will use my mastery of the quantum field to unblock your chakras, one at a time, and re-enable the flow of magneto-electric spiritual energy throughout your body!
…You see? Damn, I’m good! I didn’t even have to think about that! The bullshit just flows so naturally. It’s a gift, really, but you too can learn to talk like this, if you keep practicing.
DB: Wow, I am speechless. I threw up in my mouth a little, but that is just brilliant! God, you’re a genius. Let me just write this all down…
God: Well, what did you expect, a retard for a god? Would a retarded god sacrifice himself to himself to atone for the sins of his own creations?
DB: Hmm… why don’t we save that question for a future conversation?
God: Absolutely! Feel free to contact me anytime. You know how to reach me!
DB: Actually, I’m not sure how I reached you. You just started talking to me.
God: Exactly! Cheerioooooo!…
DB: Wait, just one more thing! How can you, in good conscience, allow people like Walsch to continue to do what they do?
God: How am I supposed to do anything when I don’t exist? Jackass.
Money, please!
So there you have it, dear readers, straight from the horse’s mouth. Neale Donald Walsch never had a conversation with anything but his own giant head. I spoke with the real God, as you can plainly see above. So… give me money. Come on, cough it up.
January 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Dmitry,
You made me choke on my coffee when I was reading this and my keyboard now has a brownish hue, which is probably an improvement.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:25 am
Fear God. Don’t take His name in vain …
February 10th, 2009 at 4:29 am
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
You can’t mock God like that…
February 10th, 2009 at 11:39 am
What do you mean, I “can’t”? I just did! And here’s another one: The Biblical god is, at best, an Alzheimer’s patient, and at worst, a raving lunatic.
Hey, I’m still in one piece! Is something supposed to happen that I’m not aware of?
Quoting from the Bible (which I have read thoroughly) won’t make it any less fictional. Neither will it make God pop into existence. I can spend my entire life memorizing lines from Star Wars and fearing the Dark Side, but that doesn’t make the Force real, either.
You can go ahead and continue to fear God, and I’ll just continue living in the 21st century.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:03 am
If God does not exist, then what meaning or purpose is there to life? Are we just waiting around for our brief moment that is of no consequence until the universe exhausts itself and burns out? That sucks…
February 19th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
@Original Dude,
The response to your argument, which is a very common one, is four-fold:
1. Just because you’re uncomfortable with a certain truth about our world doesn’t make it any less true. Life is not always fair, and you can’t only believe things that make you warm and fuzzy.
2. If you need a god to give your life purpose, that’s kind of sad. Do you mean to say that there’s nothing in your life that gives you purpose intrinsically, such as raising a family, contributing to noble causes, doing research, improving the quality of life for others, and attaining a better understanding of our world? It’s your life; it’s entirely up to you to decide what purpose to give it.
3. Does God’s existence have a “purpose”? If so, who gives the purpose to God’s life? If God’s life has a purpose intrinsically, then isn’t it possible for our lives to have equally intrinsic purpose?
4. The “purpose” that God supposedly gives us (which is to worship him, and not much else) isn’t a very good one, compared with the richness of purpose that we can give to our own lives. Would you rather be “canned applause” for a Bronze-age sky god, or an independent free-thinking being with more meaningful aspirations?
February 19th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Fair enough. This does make for an interesting discussion.
1. Denying the truth of the existence of God does not make it any less true. Can there be truth outside of the existence of God? Is it possible for a world born out of chance that continues to evolve based on the chance of natural selection to uphold truth consisitently or does truth evolve as well? If so, how can it be truth?
2. What purpose does purpose serve? If God does not exist then we simply cease to exist when we die. When all the stars die and the universe is cold and spent what will remain? So if I live for 1000 years and do great things for society or if I live 5 hours and live selfishly why should it matter as everything in the end will be void? That seems to put a damper on anything that would give me purpose intrinsically. If I could live for eternity (if it were possible) would it even matter?
3. This seems an unlogical argument if the existence of God is denied. If God existed and were really God then who would we be to define his purpose? Would he not be self fulfilled? His purpose being his own? Who could question his purpose or apply limits or definitions to it?
4. Not entirely. Say God exists. Of course we would worship him, how could we not. It would be correct of him to require worship of us since he would be God and we would not. Who would we be to tell him otherwise? How would we know all of the purpose that he would give us, we surely could not comprehend all of his thoughts and ways. Are our purposes really as rich and satisfying as we say they are? Is raising a family in a world like we live in today a good thing? Is any cause noble? Or is it just passing our time until we cease to exist?
February 19th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I don’t want to get into a drawn-out debate, since this is kind of off-topic, and all the points you raise have been thoroughly addressed by other, more eloquent writers. I’ll just give a brief synopsis:
1. I can’t deny the “truth of the existence” of something that doesn’t exist. You are the one who posits the existence of a god, so it’s up to you to show evidence of its existence. If I had to disprove the existence of all the gods invented throughout history, I wouldn’t have time for much else.
The notion that life evolves “based on the chance of natural selection” stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of the theory of evolution. Natural selection is, by definition, not a chance process. As for “truth,” the truth of the laws of physics certainly does not evolve. However, subjective truths like what’s “right and wrong” do indeed evolve. For example, 2000 years ago slavery was perfectly acceptable and commonplace. Today, however, it’s regarded as a violation of human rights.
2. Again, just because it “puts a damper” on things doesn’t mean it’s not true. I still don’t see how our lives can have “more” purpose if God were to exist. It doesn’t appear to me that the average god-believer (be it a Christian, Muslim, etc) is any more happy in life than the average atheist.
3. That’s precisely my point. If God can give himself purpose (if he can be self-fulfilled), then why can’t we?
4. Even if God were to exist, I’m not so sure he would deserve to be worshiped. Based on his shenanigans in the Old Testament, he comes off as an evil, barbaric monster. And in modern events, allowing things like the AIDS epidemic, overpopulation, and 9/11 to occur, doesn’t inspire confidence in the Lord’s ability to manage our world. If this is the way he manages this world, just imagine how he manages “heaven”!
But of course, the standard reply is, “We can’t comprehend his mysterious ways!” Well, besides being a cop-out argument, it doesn’t really improve God’s case, either. What if, in heaven, God’s ways will be even more mysterious than on earth? What if the “higher purpose” that God has for you is a really bad one?
And of course the standard reply (or shall I say retreat) to all this is, “You just have to have faith.” Well, to that I say, “Thanks, but no thanks.” I do have a certain “faith”; it’s faith in our future, a future where children are taught proper critical thinking skills, and grow up to be free from the mental shackles of superstitions, gods, and pseudoscience. We have a long way to go, though.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Neither do I want to get in a long drawn out debate. I agree that people have made fools of themselves and others in writing books about conversations with God to make a profit. They have also done so on the other end of that spectrum.
1. I am convicted of a crime. I know for a fact that I did not commit the crime. There is evidence against me that proves I did it. That does not change the fact that I did not do it. Are you saying the proof that God does not exist is the lack of proof he exists? How do the laws of physics remain constant? Were they always there? Where did they begin? Where is your proof? I agree with your statement about society’s notion of right and wrong. Remember that a notion does not mean it is real, or just because the world was agreed flat at one time does not mean that it really was.
2. You are right, most believers are not any happier than the average athiest. We all have things that make us unhappy. The average believer should not be this way though since they have the hope of eternal life, where the athiest does not. Mathematically speaking if you submit to the existence of God you have lost nothing if it is false and gained eternity if it is true.
3. We cannot be self fulfilled because we are not God, but we can still make choices of what to do with our time. Beleive me if I were God I would not be dragging myself to through the daily grind. I would be living in my own paradise, would’nt you? So how can we set ourselves up as little gods?
4. God is what we use to define the supreme being. The one that defines “being”. The all powerful, all knowing. If there were anything greater then that would be God. His ways and thoughts being higher than ours is not a cop-out it is the mere truth that if God exists then that is the way it would be. He would be the creator of everything and so everything would have no choice but to submit to his will unless he allowed otherwise. Some things are made for a greater purpose than others, that is not the creations choice but rather it is the creator’s choice. If in fact the creator exists.
Yes, faith. You can have faith in anything you like. Having faith in God has nothing to do with his existence. Having faith in something does not change it’s existence. I have faith that when I eat my wifes cooking that it will taste good. My lack of faith will not make it taste bad. Knowing wether she can cook well would deny the need for faith and knowing she could not cook would not create faith, it would simply mean ordering out. I am not asking that you have faith in God. If he exists do you think he would need our faith to make himself feel good or feel fulfilled? Not likely.
I do enjoy this sort of debate. Thanks,
February 20th, 2009 at 9:11 am
By the way. I am a friend not an enemy. I debate because I enjoy the mental stimulation. Seeing that this site exists apparently you do as well. So do not allow this to ruin your day or think that I am randomly attacking you for no apperent reason.
February 28th, 2009 at 4:48 am
I’m not nearly as optimistic as you seem in your last sentence there, but ‘Amen’ to that, brother!
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Oh yes, “proper critical thinking skills” could not possibly include pondering the possibility of God. That sounds more like brain washing to me. Proper critical thinking skills would suggest that in order to prove that there is no God that you must search the entire universe and not find God. Let me know when you are finished and I can remove the possibility of the existence of God from my “proper critical thinking” box.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Thanks for proving my point so succinctly.
Here’s some correct critical thinking.
It is not up to me to disprove the existence of a being that someone else made up. It’s up to the person who made it up (the person who posits the existence of a god) to show evidence that it’s real. If I had to disprove every possible being that the human imagination can produce, it would take me an eternity.
Do you find yourself needing to disprove the existence of the Greek or Hindu gods, or any of the thousands of mythical beings invented throughout history? For that matter, if I randomly made up an invisible being named Billy-bob, and told you that he exists, would you believe in him? Well, I don’t believe in the existence of your god with the same degree of confidence that you don’t believe in Billy-bob.
Denying the existence of God doesn’t mean that I’m “actively looking” for disproof of his existence. All I’m doing is waiting patiently for someone to show me positive evidence for the existence of their god.
March 4th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Your right. It is not your responsibility to disprove it. It is not correct to assume it is made-up though. The very nature of the existence of the universe posits the existence of an initial beginning of the universe involving something instantiating it.
March 4th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
There are several rational arguments for the existence of God found in this book for example: Reasonable Faith. If you are interested. I am currently reading it myself.
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/
March 5th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Don’t you think I’ve heard “rational arguments” for the existence of God before? Indeed there are several of them, including the Cosmological argument, which you invoked in your comment.
However, if you read the works of actual philosophers, and not just the works of Christian apologists who pander to your preconceptions, you’ll learn that all these arguments have been put to rest a long time ago. Rewording these arguments in modern terms does not make them any stronger.
William Lane Craig does not offer any arguments that are new or original. If someone invented a new argument for the existence of God that was actually convincing, it would spread like wildfire through the scientific community. As you can see, this has not happened yet.
March 5th, 2009 at 8:46 am
I would like to see where these were “put to rest”. I have yet to see a real philosopher or scientist for that matter that was able prove that God does not exist. The arguments I have seen end up being absurd at best. If you would not mind pointing me to these arguments you speak of I would be interested in seeing them. We need to leave our pressupositions for the existence of God behind or we will always come up with the same result no matter what evidence is laid before us.
Do you think your Biily-Bob could endure thousands of years of ridicule like this God has and endure? I do not think that an imaginary friend can compare to the question of the existence of God?
March 8th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
The reason why the Christian god has “endured” thousands of years of ridicule is because, in darker times, his followers killed everyone who didn’t believe in him, and instilled the same fear and intolerance into their own offspring. Also keep in mind that the “ridicule” of the Christian god didn’t really start occuring until the aptly-named Enlightenment period.
The fact that the Christian god survived to this day, instead of another random contrivance of a Bronze-age culture, is a complete accident of history.
It is likewise not my responsibility to provide you with the stupefying multitude of Web links to pages that thoroughly refute theistic arguments, not to mention literature such as the works of Bertrand Russell, Immanuel Kant, and (god forbid) Richard Dawkins. If you haven’t yet found them yourself, it’s probably because you don’t want to.
The reason why arguments against god’s existence seem “absurd” to you is most likely because you heard straw-man versions of the arguments from Christian apologist sources, which is apparently all you’ve been reading. Don’t pretend that you’re genuinely seeking out arguments against the existence of your god, when all you’re doing is looking for straw men to knock down so you could reinforce your preexisting indoctrination.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Then start with just one. Just one argument that is thoroughly convincing that it is impossible for God to exist. It is not that I do not want to hear it, it is more that one does not exist that I am aware of. I am not asking for a multitude of stuff here, just one that has conviced you that it is impossible for the Christian god to exist. The first one that comes to mind, I am genuinely interested and will take time to read through it and try have an open mind when I do.
Also, I find it hard to believe that the reason the Christian god survived is an accident of history. Along with all of the other accidents in history the Christian Bible accurately predicted.
March 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Well, let’s back up for a second. I don’t think it’s “impossible” for a god to exist. I doubt you’ll find any atheist who thinks so. Atheists (and scientists in general) think in terms of probabilities, not absolutes. It’s exceedingly improbable for a god to exist.
Like I said before, I don’t believe in the Christian god with the same degree of confidence that you don’t believe in my imaginary friend Billy-bob. Of course neither of us can completely rule out the existence of Billy-Bob (he is, after all, invisible), but in practice we simply don’t believe that he exists. The exact same reasoning is used by atheists toward God.
There’s no specific reason why I don’t believe in a god. It’s simply because all the arguments for his existence are plagued by logical fallacies, naivete, and ignorance. It’s also because I understand the human psychology behind belief, and why humans are compelled to reach out to a “higher power” when they are in a situation that is out of their control. It’s not because the higher power exists; it’s because human psychology evolved to react this way!
Technically, there are no direct arguments “against” the existence of God, because, once again, it’s not up to atheists to disprove the existence of Christianity’s imaginary friend. All we have are refutations of the arguments that Christians have dreamed up over the centuries. For a wonderfully-written summary of all the classical arguments, and their refutations, read here.
For a broader discussion of what atheism is, and why atheists don’t believe in a god, read here.
Biblical “predictions” are a different topic altogether. You kind of dropped the ball there; I didn’t think you were that far out. Doesn’t it concern you that these predictions are invariably found after the actual event has taken place (vaticinium ex eventu)?
March 10th, 2009 at 7:51 am
I think I have the ball right where I want it. If you think that taking the text of the Christian Bible as truth to be far out there then yes I am far out there and we can discuss vaticinium ex eventu later if you like I would be more than happy too, but I did not mean to stray from the original discussion.
So you consider yourself to be what the site you pointed me to calls a weak atheist as in you do not believe that it is impossible for god to exist. So it is not correct for you to say what you said at the end of the story “God: How am I supposed to do anything when I don’t exist?”, because you cannot be certain.
You say that the human psychology has evolved to beleive in god? Is it now evolving to beleive in only itself, or not to need god? Does that infer that there is something in existence that tends naturally toward the existence of god outside of human control and that is why we evolved to acknowledge it?
March 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am
My original article (written somewhere far above the comments) is a tongue-in-cheek satire designed to poke fun at Neale Donald Walsh, and nothing else. It is not meant to be an argument against the existence of God, or a rigorous statement of my beliefs. This is why I was hesitant to pursue our debate, because it’s wildly off-topic.
I don’t like to differentiate between “weak” and “strong” atheism. I am quite certain that there is no god. Just as I am certain that there is no teapot in orbit between Earth and Mars. Again, my certainty is never 100%, but it’s pretty damn close. If that makes me a weak atheist, so be it.
Let’s put it this way: You are an atheist with respect to 99.9% of all gods invented throughout history, except the one god you now believe in. I, on the other hand, am an atheist with respect to 100% of all gods! That’s just one god more than you.
Regarding human psychology, there are perfectly good evolutionary explanations for god-belief. Human psychology is very fragile. When a person is in a situation that’s out of her control, she needs to feel that “everything will be alright”. What better way to attain that feeling than by inventing a powerful father-figure that looks over you, and will destroy your enemies if you pray hard enough?
Human psychology is not evolving to “believe in itself”. It’s simply evolving to grow out of the need to invent a comforting caretaker, just like a child grows out of believing in Santa Claus. It’s no longer necessary. The child becomes too mature to believe in an old man who visits the home of every child on earth. Humanity, likewise, is in the process of maturing beyond the belief in an old man who answers prayers and grants eternal life and/or damnation. It’s no longer necessary!
March 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I understand your satire, I was simply saying that it is incorrect to say that god does not exist.
With China’s space program and North Korea launching rockets how can you be certain that there is no teapot in orbit between Earth and Mars? (Not expecting an answer on that…) But seriously, if you cannot be 100% sure would it not be wise “statistically speaking” to believe in the christian god since you will lose nothing if you are wrong and gain eternity if you are right? This is by no means a reason to believe in the christian god it is just a thought. Science cannot prolong your life indefinitely, we would like to think it will be possible in the future but it cannot right now. Is it strictly that you think it is logically impossible or are there other reasons?
In respect to human psychology, are all situations in our control now that we do not need a god to turn to? Is this a psychological reality that we are creating here? That man is in control of everything well enough to handle it on his own, or are we admitting that we have control of nothing and that everything is under the control of nothing? If that is the case, how is everything orchestrated so well?
March 10th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
The argument that you have “nothing to lose and everything to gain” was first proposed by Blaise Pascal in the 17th century, which is why it’s called Pascal’s Wager. It’s yet another argument that was thoroughly refuted soon after it was proposed. To this day, it surprises me that people still bring it up.
Consider this: would an all-knowing god reward you with eternity in heaven if you spent your life believing in him just in case? I would think that God would only reward people who believe in him sincerely, not because they were hedging their bets! And if you believe in him sincerely, you wouldn’t need Pascal’s Wager as the basis of your belief. Therefore the Wager is entirely useless as an argument for believing in any god.
Besides, what if the Christian god turns out to be the wrong god to believe in? What if the god that actually exists turns out to be Zeus? And boy, is he pissed at you for believing in Yahweh!
Regarding your second argument (which I’m not sure I completely understand), can you give an example of something that seems so well-orchestrated to you? Are you referring to natural disasters? Hurricanes, tsunamis, plagues? Terrorist attacks? These are all things that are out of our control. However, with enough education, enough research, and enough science, we can eventually overcome them all.
Regarding indefinite life, this is something that we may never achieve, even with unlimited research. Life is finite! We can either deny this, or we can understand it and embrace it. Life is the most important thing we have. Pretending that we can “survive death” cheapens the short span of time we have here and now to do something useful!
March 10th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
First, thank you for removing the blundered post. I appreciate it.
I’m glad you feel that way about Pascal’s Wager (Consider this: would an all-knowing god reward you with eternity in heaven if you spent your life believing in him just in case?). The reality is that it is not us that would do the choosing any way. The christian bible clearly states throught itself that it is the christian god that chose who would and would not beleive in him before anything was created. It has nothing to do with what evidence we find, because our secondary choice is based on his primary choice.
I was talking about everything you mentioned for the second argument. More or less: Even if eventually through science and research we have everything under control something would inevitably arise that we do not have control over. We cannot control everything yet it still seems to exist and continue in a controlled fashion. There must be something directing it?
March 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
This was fun to read. Obviously an atheist point of view which is good, so anything related to God would be switched to Dog which would mean that OMG would be OMDog and so on.
Whether one believes in God or not does not change life. There is life or so we are led to believe. Or are we in fact players in the dream of one very large person out there in the cosmos and the earth is their dream, and bit by bit the dream changes as they go through their life. The Matrix on a new level.
I was raised as a strict catholic which means I was told to go to church, do things a certain way, when I didn’t go into a phonebooth tell some guy dressed in black who would give me some kind of detention and tell me that this older guy in the clouds forgave me for everything.
Then one day I had a death experience, went away and came back. That was cool, was I dead? who knows, but the lights were really dim and there were physical things about the place. Do we really die? Probably not because I got to see myself in this place and I was much the same person at the time and I had just been in a wreck, but there was not a scratch on me, so go figure. No white light, but no burning sensations either.
I believe that keeping an open mind to possibilities is a good thing and that knowing the universe has many things to offer us if we are open to receiving them is another good thing. I also know that by asking for them, being open to receiving them, knowing you deserve them, and then not questioning when they show up for you all do work and this law of attraction does function as described.
The problem is getting people to know constantly that they deserve these great things and not to judge themselves so that the abundance has a way to flow to them vs. away from them…
But that’s something else for the days of pondering ahead.
Great blog, keep it going!
Michael Murdock
@docmurdock on twitter – but don’t follow me because I am channeling a group of people with a universal perspective and you might actually get sucked up into giving me money at some point.
April 1st, 2009 at 1:15 am
Yes, so to all the Christians. Why don’t you believe in the Koran? It is eerily similar to the bible. And, why not believe in both just to cover your bases… you know just in case. Why don’t you believe in every god ever invented? That way you would be sure to have believed in the right one.
I like the post about how Christians are 99.9 percent atheist. Atheists are just 100 percent atheist.
actually if you were to take into account that every believer in god believes at least slightly differently than every other believer… then if you take the limit as n (the number of gods you don’t believe in) goes to infinity (since there is an infinite amount of gods available) then every one is atheist. yay. maybe there is hope after all.
June 7th, 2009 at 3:58 am
Well,reasonablefaith.com has some of the most worthless arguments about god….It is one more place to see how eloquent people can make use of his/her mighty toung to divert or puzle people ….
One thing I`d like to accept here that none knows what reality is and if there is any or many of it ….but yes,being amazed by the our own ideas and terms is one of the best and worst at the same ….
Why do you need purpose? How do you so simply know that the existance of god (or the other way) has a great implication ? Why don`t you think that he is a good-minded but powerful lord who is hindering us in exercising our own possibility or yet,playing with us in an utopian world ,subjecting us to endless pain and misery by a bait of infinite truth? What do you know what infinity is…? Why not all of us feel how it feels to sit othat great chair or yet to lead a town populated by some more god like creatures…? Why not satan shuld be more welcome if he wanted to know the truth behind gods work or wanted to sit on that chair … ?
You all people who look for god should search a place where there are kings and queens or make one for your personal use or better go to china …huh
Funny craps…taking there own unhappiness to the market to buy a pic of god.. !!
Better you live for yourself,your family or for your dream or die …
Oh yes …. could have a night f**king HIS ass…the devine one….sucks